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The Anthony Edwards Debate: Money, Motherhood, and Moral Boundaries
When NBA player Anthony Edwards made headlines for paying his child support in one lump sum, it sparked a nationwide debate about parental rights and responsibilities. On this episode of Girl Please, we're joined by special guest Chuck from the Man Listen podcast to dive deep into this controversy and other relationship hot topics that have everyone talking.
Chuck doesn't hold back as he describes Edwards' decision as a "financial abortion," questioning whether the mother's actions—allegedly taking $100,000 and moving states to increase child support payments—influenced this outcome. But the conversation takes an unexpected turn when we examine the 16-year age gap between Edwards (23) and the mother (39). Would we view this situation differently if the genders were reversed? The double standard becomes impossible to ignore as we dissect how society judges older women dating younger men versus older men pursuing younger women.
From there, we explore why Chuck refuses to post about relationships on social media, diving into how the "highlight reel" of Instagram and Facebook creates false expectations and unnecessary pressure. The wine flows freely as Chuck candidly admits his trust issues, leading to a raw discussion about whether anyone can ever be trusted completely. Carmen then shares a hair-raising story about being caught in a high-speed chase because someone wasn't honest about their relationship status—a perfect example of how "situationships" can quickly become dangerous when transparency is lacking.
Whether you're navigating the complexities of modern dating, questioning societal double standards, or just want an unfiltered conversation about relationships, this episode delivers eye-opening perspectives that will have you questioning your own assumptions and maybe even your approach to honesty in relationships. So pour yourself something nice and join us for this no-holds-barred conversation about love, lies, and everything in between.
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Welcome to Girl Please, where we dive into real conversations, real laughs and real life. Just a quick note the views and opinions expressed on this show are our own and don't represent anyone else's. We keep it fun, open and honest, so let's get into it. This is Girl Please.
Speaker 3:Welcome back. Welcome back, welcome back to another episode. I'm your host Jessica. I'm your host Jessica, and I'm your host Carmen. And this is Girl, Please the podcast hey y'all, thanks for coming back.
Speaker 1:No, you can't take my soul, but you did it to me. I swear I'm breaking bad. Hey y'all, thanks for coming back and today we have a special guest. This is Chuck. Part of the no Label Family and the man Listen podcast Heavily requested Somebody we would love to talk to and debate a few topics. Thank you, chuck, for coming.
Speaker 2:Thank y'all for having me. Don you start. No shit. Nice thing. That's how we doing this shit today. Really. I know I said I won't cuss, but okay, so needless to say, uh, chuck, and I like to debate.
Speaker 1:This is why I wore this shirt today, just so you would be reminded over and over again not to try me all right either way just so you would be reminded over and over again not to try me, all right.
Speaker 1:Either way, you're trying to get a little drink in me or something. He pointing to it already. So, even though you said you don't drink wine, we wanted to try this with you. This is a wine that we have reviewed before, but we thought Chuck might like it. So this is the Stella Rosa Black. Once again, it's a red wine, and it is fizzy, I have a question.
Speaker 2:Why would you think I like it?
Speaker 3:Go ahead, man, use those strong muscles you got. Please help, don't embarrass me, okay.
Speaker 2:Put your arms into it. There you go there you go, thank you. Thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 1:That makes you feel me that's useful okay.
Speaker 2:That's like the shit they put on the movies Right before something bad happens. You got truth serum in this motherfucker. Yeah, we do. It's going to make you feel sexy.
Speaker 1:To the rim, baby. God damn, take your time there, bud, it's okay, it's good, it is good, all right.
Speaker 2:They all foam like that.
Speaker 3:You see it, not all wines like that, yeah, you see it, not all wines.
Speaker 2:What's the same bottle you talking about? Yeah, I know this one foam. I'm talking about the rest of the bottle.
Speaker 1:No, no, no no, it sounds like you've been through some things. I mean hey.
Speaker 2:Hey man.
Speaker 3:All right, y'all, you pop the top Just letting you.
Speaker 1:There's nothing extra in there. I know people that can do that you know what You've been around the wrong motherfucker Lord, help us. Okay, let's toast y'all. What would you like to toast to Chuck?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I hope this shit's safe, so nervous.
Speaker 1:What do you think we're going to do to you Health? Put your seatbelt on.
Speaker 3:It's been a bit of a while Prosper prosperity.
Speaker 2:I just need to drink to deal with you why you drink yours first since you know some people that do shit like that yeah, you would've turned your head, I'd have switched our glass.
Speaker 3:See, I'd have switched our glass, you'd have turned your head, so what you think it is alright, though, okay, okay, look at you he put you on to. He said what that is right there.
Speaker 2:I cut the slow jams on right now. There you go. That's exactly what it's for. You need a robe or something.
Speaker 1:Oh, a robe Amen. Okay, what else?
Speaker 1:That's it Alright. Alright, let's get into it. So we wanted to talk about some like heavily debated topics when it comes to men and women. We knew you would have an interesting perspective. So something I thought of when I saw it online I thought Chucky would have an interesting perspective on this, and you probably have already talked about it online, I'm sure. So a hot topic right now is Anthony Edwards, who plays for the Timberwolves, and he basically went to court and had to pay child support for a child and he ended up paying all the money up front. What do you think about that?
Speaker 2:It sounds like a good idea. People go broke. What have you had in 18 years?
Speaker 1:That's a good perspective. What's the problem with that? That just didn't seem like his angle. It didn't seem like he was.
Speaker 2:Oh no, that wasn't his angle at all.
Speaker 3:That's what I thought about it. What did you think his angle was? Take this money and go on somewhere, I mean, that man had a financial abortion.
Speaker 2:basically, I don't want nothing to do with it. I don't agree. I personally couldn't have a kid out here and be like no, it's mine, and be like fuck that.
Speaker 3:Right, I feel like he's going to come back around and end up having a relationship with him.
Speaker 2:It's a boy.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Actually, I don't know. I think it is a boy actually. I'm not sure. Though Don't quote me on that, I'm a psychic.
Speaker 2:It's a boy, is a boy Alright. No, I don't know. Yeah, well, I don't know. I personally couldn't. And the money thing, I don't see nothing wrong with that, but just being like I don't want nothing to do with that baby, it's kind of crazy. So do you feel?
Speaker 1:like that, his actions when it came to that and just kind of paying her the money and getting it out the way. Do you think that was because of how she acted prior to the court date and all that Didn't? She take like $100,000 from him. So apparently he wanted her to get an abortion, paid her $100,000 to do so and then she didn't do it and then took him to court yeah.
Speaker 3:What a $100,000 abortion. Is that I? Mean he was paying her off.
Speaker 2:He wanted her to get the abortion and get that loan.
Speaker 1:Everything Like please bitch go. The other thing she did that I feel like needs to be put out there is that she's from Atlanta.
Speaker 3:She moved to California to get California child support.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, she tried to finesse the system.
Speaker 3:Oh, so she was in Atlanta and she went to California to up the child support Right right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she on some bullshit. She was talking like she little baby mama too. That's what I right. Yeah, she on some bullshit. She was talking like she a little baby baby mama too.
Speaker 3:That's what I. Okay, that's who it was. Yeah, I knew she was. Yeah, she a little baby, baby, mama too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she know what she doing. He gave you $100,000. Why you ain't tell him? Or did she tell him?
Speaker 1:she wasn't going to get rid of it when and that I'm not doing it. So I understand why he mad.
Speaker 2:He probably, like you said he probably come around a couple years and be like all right, bitch, let me see my baby.
Speaker 3:But damn, you took $100,000, then got over a million dollars in child support. I'd be like okay.
Speaker 1:I'm going to see my way out.
Speaker 3:That's a lot.
Speaker 2:Thanks for your time and be like, but I understand why he mad, though I'd be pissed off, I'd probably be on the same shit like at this moment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would feel like she's going to play with me for a long time, can you?
Speaker 2:say fuck that baby on YouTube.
Speaker 1:Fuck you, fuck that baby, all that shit. I think it's FTK if you want to try to be safe.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah but I got a question for y'all since we talking about it.
Speaker 4:How do y'all feel about her?
Speaker 1:being 39 and him being 23?.
Speaker 4:You really think you should ask me that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hell yeah, exactly, because I just know if he was 39 and she was 23.
Speaker 3:It would be a different.
Speaker 2:He groomed her. Yeah, she wasn't old enough to be dealing with a man that age.
Speaker 3:It's definitely a different conversation.
Speaker 1:It's definitely a different conversation if you turn it around faster than men so they say Mm-hmm, it's not always the case, but when an older man with a younger woman.
Speaker 2:She ain't mature.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's true. I think that the fact that she's mature I ain't saying it's true I think that money plays a really big part in it, age-wise, on one side or the other, it's very typical for younger women to date older men period, but especially when they have money. And when it comes to an older woman being with someone who's younger, this is probably not going to go well with the viewers, but I personally feel like if the woman is older, then it may be more about money when the guy is younger.
Speaker 3:What.
Speaker 2:Because, that's understandable.
Speaker 1:It's like you know she's probably reached a certain place in age where you know she settled down. She obviously has another kid and things like that, right she might, you know. Obviously she got the payout she was looking for and that's really how I see that situation.
Speaker 2:So you don't think there's no grooming or nothing like that?
Speaker 1:on her behalf?
Speaker 3:No, because, because he a guy Probably not, is it?
Speaker 2:because, he a guy, or just because you don't think so.
Speaker 1:It doesn't take. You don't have to groom men, okay, they're willing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I love, whether you're 18 or 45. It's kind of crazy to say.
Speaker 1:I mean, okay, some women are now, maybe you can grow them in other ways. Or manipulate.
Speaker 3:Maybe manipulate them in other ways. I can't speak to that. Other situations like yeah, if a female is older than the male, you kind of think like what is that going? You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Your son come home.
Speaker 1:I don't like that. His girlfriend. You always want to talk about my kids, his girlfriend 15 years older than him.
Speaker 2:You ain't going to feel like he ain't ready for her.
Speaker 1:It would depend on If he's like 19, 20. 19 or 20,? Absolutely not.
Speaker 2:He's 23. So she had the baby.
Speaker 1:So he probably 20 when this happened, maybe 21.
Speaker 2:I would feel like he was probably taking advantage of her Because she's pregnant with nine, ten months and they was dealing with her. Yeah, so one of y'all kids he ain't got no son.
Speaker 1:I would definitely feel like he was being groomed if he had money. If he didn't have money, if he didn't, I would probably. I don't want to say that If he didn't have money I would be a little concerned At 19 or 20.
Speaker 2:It's different if he was in his later 20s. I guess the nature of the relationship would matter.
Speaker 1:Like if they're just messing around, I'd be like you know, be careful, son, but if she got him, like, yeah, you need to do this.
Speaker 2:No, you don't need to do that, you need to come over.
Speaker 1:I would make their lives very difficult until it ends. Why difficult until it ends? Why? Because I don't want my son or my daughter, but especially my boys. I feel like men are supposed to be men. Men are supposed to be in a certain position and I have found in my own experience that if the woman is more dominant, or she's more mature, or she has more whatever, it can be a little emasculating for men Right, and it just it creates a imbalance that is not healthy, but I wouldn't want my son to be with somebody that much older.
Speaker 2:No, Seriously, no, seriously, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1:It could be being grown I don't want to think about it, I know.
Speaker 2:I took it too far.
Speaker 1:Realistically. I hope. I don't know if he's just being grown with somebody, it's his business she knew what she was doing.
Speaker 3:She 39, he 23. She definitely did. He should have.
Speaker 2:He old enough to know, nigga, you need to pull out. He old enough to know that. But, man, we all have been there. Well, I was going to say I mean how many glasses of this before he made that decision?
Speaker 3:You know what I shit happen.
Speaker 2:People act like they don't know shit happen.
Speaker 3:How many licks does it take to get?
Speaker 2:to a titty pop yeah.
Speaker 3:Huh To that 100k. She probably be like I'm 39,.
Speaker 2:I ain't having no more kids. I don't even know how she saying little shit like that Hell, nah, I ain't having no more kids. So he thinking all she had another plan in mind.
Speaker 1:I would be embarrassed if I was 39 and I was pregnant by somebody that's 23.
Speaker 3:She didn't give a damn. I would be embarrassed.
Speaker 2:I would want nobody to figure out. Find that out. It is what it was now, though. Still, she got commercials.
Speaker 1:Because it doesn't matter. He's not going to wife you and you still look like a predator in some people's eyes.
Speaker 3:You do.
Speaker 1:Really, though still you know 39, 23. There's a certain mindset that comes with people of an age of 39 and 23 that is way way too different.
Speaker 2:That was the only reason I asked y'all that, because I feel like that whole part got glossed over.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I feel like it is important to look at that too. A guy would have got drugged in that same scenario, definitely.
Speaker 1:Well, that happens every day, though. I mean people, women are young and have babies by older men all the time, and I think it's not looked at as bad because people consider the man the provider, so they're like, oh well, she'll be taken care of, which? Is not even necessarily the best way to think either.
Speaker 2:That's always been a weird conversation anyway, because for some reason, younger girls like older guys. I remember being in school and girls in my grade we in middle school they talking to all the boys in high school already. Then we get to high school, they talking to boys out of high school.
Speaker 3:Girls your age, older guys, guys like younger women.
Speaker 1:I don't know why everybody know that, but it's like a problem. It's a double standard, for sure.
Speaker 2:It's definitely a double standard yeah.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't want mine, For the average man he ain't did nothing wrong. I don't think he's wrong either he was bad boozing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think he was wrong, but he gonna come around and do for the baby girl, though I believe, I think he will.
Speaker 3:I hope so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it might take a while.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, it would take me a while. If, bitch, are you really playing with me?
Speaker 2:Yeah she definitely is Like all that goddamn money.
Speaker 3:It's like come on now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, then she mad he like well, take the money then. That's what you wanted, that's what you wanted, that's what she wanted.
Speaker 3:Yeah huh, you got to see it. I think that's all she wanted. I don't think she cared whether he's there or not.
Speaker 1:No, no, as if you're going to have an abortion. That means the baby wasn't what you wanted from him, because you asked for way more money than I don't know how much it costs for an abortion.
Speaker 2:I don't even know if she asked for that, John. I think he was just like huh. Well, either way, that was for you to get the abortion, get you a new car.
Speaker 3:And shut up. Don't go on vacation, don't go on social media.
Speaker 2:Try to out me about this shit.
Speaker 1:She should have just took that and kept it moving, but okay.
Speaker 2:I mean, even if you decided to keep it all the child support and all you should have just took that to the chin. You made that decision.
Speaker 1:So that brings up another topic that's very similar to what we're talking about specifically, though, because I've heard a lot of people debate about do you think that? You know, women obviously have control over their own bodies when it comes to birth and abortion and whatever choice that they make, obviously we need a man to make that happen. So I've heard a lot of people debate on is it fair when we've heard, even in court cases where a woman may not want to have the baby, the man does want to have the baby, and then it becomes an issue because he's like well, wait, you know, I don't want you to get rid of this baby, right? What do you think about that double standard? Because, on the other end, you know, men can ask you all day to have an abortion. You're like no, I want to keep the baby, you know. Do you think it's fair that then those men in turn have to go pay child support and support children that they didn't want? I don't think that's fair?
Speaker 2:I don't think that's fair, because I mean you get to if you don't want it, you just can't do whatever you want to do, but if I don't want it, and then it's what you should have. You knew what you was doing when you had sex, so did she Right? So what's the difference between men?
Speaker 1:Well, women always say oh, women have, you know, choice over their own bodies, but men can't carry babies, it, can you know?
Speaker 2:control it. I got control over my money. I don't want to spend it when you had a baby. I don't want to pay no jobs for it.
Speaker 1:I don't want to be around, but a lot of men are scared to have that conversation because it sounds bad.
Speaker 2:but I believe I agree with you. I'm definitely like I wouldn't do it personally, but I feel like dudes should have the opportunity to be like look, I don't want it, she want it. I shouldn't have to be responsible for it when it get here.
Speaker 1:So what about? Because?
Speaker 2:women don't got to be responsible for it. When it get here, a woman can just take her kid to adoption thing and that's it.
Speaker 4:She don't got to pay her dad.
Speaker 2:She don't owe nobody no money or nothing Could you imagine that's the same thing'm not trying to speak this crazy over nobody. Women can literally take their baby to the fire station and be like huh, they can.
Speaker 1:There's boxes there for some of them.
Speaker 2:The government not going to be sending her child support payments. She need to pay while it's at the adoption facility. What's the difference? I agree, look at that.
Speaker 1:It's not fair, I agree with you.
Speaker 3:Can't believe it.
Speaker 2:Of course you do.
Speaker 3:Are you listening? I think by the end y'all circled around and y'all be like see well, it was a friend this is always the case.
Speaker 2:I don't know why she acting like that with her little shirt and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:She always agree. You're the one that came here. Nervous, yeah, but I mean.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's right though. I don't think it're making the choice. If you've already been told I ain't trying to mess with that and you do it.
Speaker 3:You made two choices that's true that's my personal opinion and all choices have consequences, whether negative or positive so correct there it is but niggas is still crazy, though yep, I still judge niggas a little bit like that's your baby, though, brother, like me personally, if I felt that way, I still couldn't see me doing it.
Speaker 2:Though get on Facebook, see if she uploaded a picture. See the baby look. Just like me don't want nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1:That's why you just don't be Facebook friends with your exes. I ain't Facebook friends with my current, if we go together we live with, not to be Facebook friends. I learned my lesson there. Way too many problems with Facebook. I block everybody. I block your mama. Yeah, I'm the same. Yeah, Every family member.
Speaker 3:Yeah, everybody, delete, delete, delete Everybody you know, get them out of there, can't? Nobody you know? Come to my page. We're going to go ahead and wrap this up. You got to go. Yeah, of that Me either. What do you feel like men deal with the most when it comes to women and how they interact with men?
Speaker 2:I really don't know what you mean by that, for what we talking?
Speaker 3:about or just in general.
Speaker 2:Just in general what do we deal the most?
Speaker 3:Is it women's lack of understanding?
Speaker 2:Social media like the, everybody got, like this false reality and then you got real reality. I think, that's something we got to deal with. Your girl, she looking on the internet, she saying what these people doing, and they want to mimic that and it's like but we ain't, we ain't got a lot, ain't. We ain't getting paid to live our life. They getting paid to be on TV or to do whatever they doing.
Speaker 1:Well, a lot of times those people don't own what they're showing you anyway. Yeah, that's another thing. That's why I said a false reality, but a lot of women now, especially in our generation, and stuff.
Speaker 2:it's like social media is really what everybody wants, like a social media relationship. But the stuff you're seeing on social media like somebody could be getting I don't want to say getting abused, but on camera they look like that.
Speaker 3:But you want what they got.
Speaker 2:I ain't touched you. We doing better than them, honestly. But they look happy on there because they toasting their little sundaes and wherever they at.
Speaker 1:I've been in that position. I think you know there's been times in my past where my relationship may have looked picture perfect on social media. I've even had people say you know, y'all look so happy or y'all so cute together, you know stuff like that. And then like you said, yeah, like you said you know, if you really think about it, what happens day to day. It's like it's not that pretty, and I'll say I wasn't personally trying to portray an image. I think I was capturing the good images that we did have at the time, because, just like any relationship, yeah you know social media like a
Speaker 4:highlight reel.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's showing all the good stuff, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's showing all the nonsense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I learned my lesson, though I barely post at all about my relationship now. Yeah, yeah, I ain't with that, no more, not no more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was on social media. One relationship. I'd never do that again Be more specific no, no, hell no, you can't say the situation Nah I mean, you want some more wine?
Speaker 1:Mm-mm, I still got some.
Speaker 3:Okay, I mean too much of it. Exactly Take more than a sip, mm-mm, not a sip, I mean, you know you got people posting them on your page and stuff.
Speaker 2:Are you posting selfies and stuff? Hell no, I ain't really doing all that.
Speaker 4:Y'all don't know if y'all know that or not.
Speaker 2:I'm not a picture person, I ain't take my cap and gown.
Speaker 3:My mama still mad at me about that. She should be right beside your head.
Speaker 2:Still today, you should still take them.
Speaker 1:Nah, that's over Take them now they're good for my mama I'm so dumbass, who's? This old man.
Speaker 2:He's just graduated he graduated college, he got a gray hair. He do it this is high school.
Speaker 3:I got my diploma.
Speaker 2:I got my high school diploma. Looking crazy right now.
Speaker 3:Hey, I might do something for you.
Speaker 2:Nah, hell nah.
Speaker 3:But, yeah, I ain't but yeah, man, you're posting people. Shit ain't what it's supposed to be. What is your fear with posting somebody?
Speaker 2:The niggas that ain't posting. Yeah man, somebody might be cracking her and then you on here showing her off. I done been on both sides of the gun that's your problem, you was cracking somebody, and then she was getting cracked.
Speaker 1:You've had too many experiences of your own to make you scared.
Speaker 2:I feel like I done solved it, your observation. We have the solution now. The solution is what to make you scared? There ain't no damn problem. I feel like I done solved it, your observation, man. We got the solution now.
Speaker 1:The solution is what?
Speaker 2:Ain't nobody give me both.
Speaker 1:Don't trust nobody, ain't nobody gonna post it.
Speaker 2:No, I can trust you, bro. I ain't trust you, I ain't. I said both sides. He said both sides. This is odd. This is odd we.
Speaker 1:We over here.
Speaker 2:Y'all understood what I was saying, right?
Speaker 1:You're going to get your turn. No, no, no. Y'all got me right, Y'all knew what I was trying to say.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right cool, we all back there. He stay trying to. You know what I'm saying. He be all behind camera he behind camera still trying to start something Hell Stay in the pot.
Speaker 3:Stay in the pot what you want me to say so.
Speaker 1:you know the bad side of most things.
Speaker 2:I ain't gonna say most things, but definitely that Regarding relationships and trust and stuff like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't really trust people like that.
Speaker 1:So, with all that experience that you have, what would you say are your red flags when you meet somebody, or certain conversations you might have where you're like mm-mm. I'm, or that put women in a certain category, where you already know this is where you're going to be and this is where you're not going to be. What are your?
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Speaker 2:I'd be I don't know, because I'd be putting everybody in this way. We're not gonna be, because I'm looking for no relationship, so off the rip.
Speaker 1:I really hope you find love Me too.
Speaker 3:I'm being so serious, thank you.
Speaker 4:I love people though.
Speaker 3:A safe love. I'm loving people. No, we're saying a love, that's going to make you settle down.
Speaker 2:I don't know if that's what you want to do. That's what you want to do?
Speaker 1:that's what you want to do. That's what you want to do. That's what you want to do.
Speaker 2:That's what you want to do. That's what you want to do that's what you want to do.
Speaker 1:That's what you want to do. That's what you want to do. That's what you want to do.
Speaker 2:That's what you want to do. That's what you want to do.
Speaker 4:That's what you want to do I, I trust you, okay, real much is.
Speaker 2:It's certain stuff. Trust is, you know.
Speaker 3:I trust certain people with certain stuff. Certain family members that go around got to lock them doors. Baby yeah, Lock them up.
Speaker 1:I understand what you're saying. Everybody can't be trusted with certain things.
Speaker 2:I mean I could trust you, but I ain't going to trust you. I ain't going to trust nobody ever in life, 100%.
Speaker 1:I feel the same way. It's never going to happen. I think everybody is capable.
Speaker 3:I feel like everybody should think that way, though, yeah. Like honestly where he is. Like you said, I got problems so. For me it's not a big problem, Once I believe it it's over.
Speaker 2:Oh God, yeah, I'm that nigga Like once you do. If I think you did something, what?
Speaker 1:makes you think Past trauma. Yeah, what other people say Exactly?
Speaker 3:Please don't put somebody in a category that don't belong there, right in there See.
Speaker 2:You're going right in there.
Speaker 3:That's the fucked up stuff, yeah.
Speaker 2:I know. That's why all we bothering people, that's why I'm sitting here telling y'all I know I'm fucked up.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. I'm glad you said it with a smile Self I'm mad at that, honestly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I ain't trying to hit your phone at 2, 3 o'clock in the morning. That's a red flag.
Speaker 3:I'm not trying to hit it? You ain't trying to hit a phone. What?
Speaker 2:Your phone died.
Speaker 3:Oh, it died.
Speaker 2:You went out with your girls. I ain't tripping you at your little girl's night. Oh yeah, my phone died.
Speaker 1:We was having so much fun.
Speaker 2:No everybody, you was fucking, you was fucking Wow.
Speaker 3:Cause she had fell asleep, right Cause.
Speaker 1:That's usually.
Speaker 3:That's usually the man that has happened to me. Okay, a man will say I was asleep, baby, baby, I was just asleep.
Speaker 2:You can just be asleep though. Women be asleep, but y'all can be asleep, but we can't be asleep. I'm quick to fall asleep. I can tell you what you can't do. I said what I ain't tell you.
Speaker 3:I ain't tell you you won't sleep.
Speaker 2:I said you was fucking, if you ask me it don't make no sense. Yeah, so.
Speaker 3:You need to get past that.
Speaker 2:Nah, I'm a boy. It depends on who you are. It depends I guess I don't feel that way about everybody.
Speaker 1:Who would? You not feel that way about? What would a person have to prove to you to make them a trustworthy woman? That if she says I fell asleep.
Speaker 2:Trustworthy in what regard.
Speaker 1:And you trusting her word, just her word, if she says I fell asleep, if she has always been trustworthy as far as her word, where she is, what she's doing.
Speaker 2:I might take it, but I don't know if I'm gonna.
Speaker 1:It's gonna bother you for like a week. Yeah, yeah, I might see him and be like three months down the road.
Speaker 3:I gotta prove it to you. I'm gonna let her have it. I'm gonna let her have it.
Speaker 2:I wanna see how quick you fall asleep around the house.
Speaker 1:I wanna see you nod off with your phone in your hand over here one day. So you're gonna conduct some research.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know you gotta do that. That's crazy, you ain't never just fell asleep over here, phone in your hand.
Speaker 3:Well, maybe she. You know she's with you, so she ain't got no reason to just fall asleep. You know I fall asleep all the time.
Speaker 2:If y'all talking, if y'all spending, I see y'all can't be with you.
Speaker 3:you just fall asleep around anybody, it's her friend. It's 3 o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2:I'm about to be sleeping some strangers and just pass out Nah we're not any strangers. You can get around your home and get loose just nodding off.
Speaker 1:Now she's getting loose because she fell asleep around her friends, I mean going off what she said she said maybe she don't just fall asleep.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying? I'm saying like, because you was like let's see if she falls asleep around me.
Speaker 1:But, she hasn't been out all night drinking with her friends, don't care. All right, it's on my nerve.
Speaker 2:It's over. So the trauma that you've been through has really set in. I don't consider it trauma. You don't consider it trauma.
Speaker 1:You think it's?
Speaker 2:an observation, it's life experience.
Speaker 1:Do you? Think you attract what you are, nah yeah.
Speaker 2:Let's elaborate. A wise man once said you say no to ratchet pussy. Juicy J came. Juicy J came.
Speaker 1:That was it for you, right there.
Speaker 3:So who are you?
Speaker 1:So which one are you? You Juicy J, or what?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying do you attract? I don't know about all that, I don't know. I feel like I'm a great guy.
Speaker 1:In my mind you do. Yeah, that's nice. I don't think you're a bad guy If somebody told you about your flaws and some things that you needed to change.
Speaker 3:are you willing to change who? Telling me Somebody that has interest in you?
Speaker 2:Why the hell they was interested in me. I got all these flaws.
Speaker 3:I mean. It's not that you have a lot of I mean all these flaws, but sometimes you need some strengthening in your character building skills. That's it.
Speaker 2:Who is giving me this advice?
Speaker 1:So you're saying you have to consider the source?
Speaker 2:Who are you to ask me this when you're this?
Speaker 4:I understand what you're saying, you know, I think you're just very confident in who you are.
Speaker 1:There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3:I think that Chucky is not changing.
Speaker 2:I changed a lot. I just told y'all I don't drink, I don't cuss, no more.
Speaker 4:Y'all made me relax, y'all made me relax, y'all giving me wine, y'all setting me up, y'all setting me up.
Speaker 1:Y'all got me drinking. Crazy work. You're just sipping. She's strong man, oh it's strong.
Speaker 2:And then drink was shut up yeah, I don't know, it depends on who and it depends on what they say. It depends on what they say. It is cause some stuff I'm not, I probably ain't alright.
Speaker 1:So what have you heard over and over and over again about myself, no matter who it is that you deal with.
Speaker 2:I think I know everything oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, accurate.
Speaker 2:What else? But I ain't changing that though.
Speaker 3:That's alright.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's it.
Speaker 2:But you know, I ain't really been In a lot of relationships you don't have to be In relationships.
Speaker 3:I mean, if you deal with women For people to have A direct observation Of how you act and what you do to them.
Speaker 2:I'm sure when they Get pissed off at you, I mean.
Speaker 4:I ain't been in.
Speaker 1:To let you know that's what women like to do.
Speaker 2:Why are you telling me about my? What happened for you to feel like you got to tell me that.
Speaker 1:Who knows what happened. I mean, I'm sure there's plenty of scenarios that happened with you and women.
Speaker 2:Like what? What you think I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm sure you pissed them off what?
Speaker 2:situation would you have to tell somebody about their self that you just messing with?
Speaker 4:She got the answer you looking at.
Speaker 3:When she got the answer you look like as we go on to the next segment.
Speaker 1:What happened Wait a minute Was that a baffling question, I'm just trying to think of how to approach it.
Speaker 2:Okay yeah, well, you're very into it now, now that I have to get in the hot seat.
Speaker 1:I've had to tell people in a situationship about themselves Like you want me to tell you in a situation ship about themselves, like you want me to tell you, like what I said? No, no, no. What was the situation? What made you? Say that Certain things that they said didn't line up with their actions Like don't keep feeding me stuff that I'm not even asking you for in the first place, yeah, but see, I ain't doing all that. Okay, you just gonna stop talking to him.
Speaker 1:No, what you saying you just gonna be honest from the beginning what you saying.
Speaker 2:Like y'all just dealing with each other, but he we have a situationship. Mm-hmm. Had a situationship Right, and then you know if there are them things that you got to check them about, what would be? I need to because I'm following you, but I ain't really following you.
Speaker 1:I'd rather not be specific, I'll be, Be specific off camera.
Speaker 2:We in a situation she don't be specific off camera, she try to be specific off camera.
Speaker 3:And we talking like you should be able to tell me whatever in-home activities you got going on. Don't be playing, ain't, nobody got time for that.
Speaker 2:Be honest, like what Huh? Yeah, what's going on here? Y'all done.
Speaker 1:Stop. No, because I don't like putting people out there.
Speaker 3:I don't have a problem with somebody. Huh, am I?
Speaker 1:nervous? No, you don't make me nervous, you act like me like 10 times you starting to act nervous. I'm not nervous, or is she just?
Speaker 2:deflecting you and trying to talk about that. Sometimes you gotta deflect a little bit.
Speaker 1:We can talk about it. Like she said, if you have a certain situation, you know, if you deal not in a relationship If we're in a situation. I'm going to assume you are I assume you are.
Speaker 2:Is that because y'all?
Speaker 3:are. It's because I can't, I ain't asking, could you? Of course you could.
Speaker 4:You could while you're married, oh.
Speaker 3:God as a married woman. If I'm a married woman, I'm not going to do that, but If I'm a married woman, if I'm a married woman.
Speaker 2:you know I'm not going to do that, absolutely not. But you will if you're in a situation.
Speaker 3:If I'm in a situation, yes, because it's not a relationship.
Speaker 2:You can. You're trying to say I could.
Speaker 1:That just said. I can't In this particular situation.
Speaker 2:no, Y'all are real slick. I like that Trust me, y'all are slick, I am slick.
Speaker 1:No, you be trying to hem us up. It's not going to happen.
Speaker 2:No, no no, I feel what you're saying, though you got some odd shit going on, but it's serious over there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just be honest about that. It's not hard. But I think that men. But you asked me about that, yes.
Speaker 3:Why Can I speak on the story?
Speaker 1:Because you don't want to go into certain situations where you're blindsided and somebody wants to fight you or somebody keeps showing up.
Speaker 2:So back to what I'm saying. Oh you, go ahead.
Speaker 3:I got a story on that, okay. I got a story on that, okay she ready now one time you know, oh boy, in a situation, ship with somebody, karma. You are aware of the situation, so you know, we, we pulling up going to the crib or whatever his crib. So you know we pulling up going to the crib or whatever his crib Get down the driveway. The girl that he's dating is in the driveway. This nigga backs up, skit we going 110. This nigga got me on a high speed.
Speaker 1:She's like he's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yes, she's chasing us. He's not crazy, she's crazy.
Speaker 1:No, he's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yes, she's chasing us. He's not crazy, she's crazy. He's crazy. First of all, why would you bring me down there? Don't take me somewhere. You got all this shit going on cause I will do something.
Speaker 1:I would have been lighting his face up the whole time shut up, here you go.
Speaker 2:I told you remember what I told y'all Joe find a clip. Oh, did we ask?
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Don't do that.
Speaker 3:Now we get to the stop sign or whatever. The girl pull up behind us, he gets out the car, so she did 110 behind y'all. Yes, who? The fuck is this Exactly? Bitch, you was crazy.
Speaker 2:You, finna, kill yourself over a nigga. That ain't crazy. I ain't chasing nobody 110 miles an hour.
Speaker 3:That's crazy insane yeah and I mean it lasted for like 15 minutes and I'm in the passenger seat, then what really? What really had me fucked up was when this nigga said duck she about to start shooting.
Speaker 2:Exactly is that?
Speaker 1:why, he said that what?
Speaker 3:I don't know what. I still don't know to this day why you told me to duck.
Speaker 1:But when I tell you, he didn't want her to see you. Maybe, I guess for real.
Speaker 3:For me, if this bitch come here and start shooting. Don't put me in a situation like that people are crazy though.
Speaker 1:I said take me to the police station no, because you don't know what she's going to do. People are crazy. If she could have got out the car and the girl was behind them, she might have hit her with the car she got out the car.
Speaker 3:Right, he got out the car. He let her walk close to him, then he jumped back in the car.
Speaker 2:I would never speak to him again.
Speaker 3:It's over did you speak to him again? Did I speak to him again?
Speaker 2:we did have conversation after.
Speaker 3:Yes, we had conversation after, but it was because nigga, what the fuck like who is?
Speaker 2:this girl. You want her plate number?
Speaker 3:yeah, I want to know who this bitch is? See y'all drinking. That was a story to tell what the fuck Like who is this girl, you want her plate number yeah. I want to know who this bitch is. See y'all drinking. That was a story to tell.
Speaker 2:I had a good question after y'all that was great.
Speaker 4:It wasn't better than that, so it don't even matter, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:It wasn't trumping that at all. Yeah, that was a Back to what I was saying what we were talking about at first what you were saying I ain't been in a lot of relationships and I said I ain't really looking, so I'm not going to tell you nothing.
Speaker 1:You don't really have to. I don't know, I think it depends, I'm not.
Speaker 2:If you are being, I ain't got a bunch of lies to tell you and all that yeah.
Speaker 3:If you're not telling lies.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter stuff on the table, but if you are trying to feed somebody something, I mean, you might text me like what you and such and such got going on.
Speaker 2:I might ignore it, but I ain't gonna lie, though I ain't gonna text you back either.
Speaker 3:So ignoring it is, I just didn't answer it, so I never lied. Yeah, man.
Speaker 1:If you're the type of person, a man that's just honest if you're not asking questions, though. But if you have somebody who you're in a situation with and then they they're trying to feed you certain things. You know, my mind immediately in any conversation goes to hypocrisy how you gonna say this if you did this.
Speaker 2:Or how you gonna say this, if I know this. Yeah, see, when I was saying situation, I just sound like y'all talking more about, I mean y'all referencing more. Like you're talking to somebody, but like it's y'all kind of like working towards going together if it's not in depth.
Speaker 3:You just scratching the surface, surface, surface. Um when I, when I think of situations, I think about that ain't going nowhere, so all right, but it ain't going nowhere, but situationships turn into something though, yeah, sometimes.
Speaker 2:That be the problem though.
Speaker 1:Sometimes— that's not my goal in a situation. Just to be clear, I already know what it is from the jump when I approach it, but you know what I know what I do is be lying, though, because you going to cut me off If I say yeah, you know that's my girl.
Speaker 2:You know I really do love her. I probably ain't going to leave her alone, you out of there. More than likely you out of there, oh for sure.
Speaker 3:Give me the opportunity to make that choice.
Speaker 1:That's the problem. I don't want you to have the choice when you take my choice away.
Speaker 3:That just does something to my spirit.
Speaker 2:Like I'm going to do something to you. You keep when I say do something to you.
Speaker 3:I mean like mentally, do something to you, okay. Okay, you go to jail for that too, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I don't know. I mean yeah, you got to take, you know you got to lie a little bit.
Speaker 1:No, you got to be honest a little bit. No, you can be honest a lot, but you got to lie sometimes no. Lying is neededall don't never lie. I have not lied to the person I'm with.
Speaker 2:First of all, women can't tell the truth.
Speaker 3:Now I will say I have not lied.
Speaker 2:That's why women cling to niggas like Steve Harvey and shit. Because they pander to women, they can't tell the truth.
Speaker 1:Steve Harvey has had many wives. Motherfuckers can't tell me nothing. He had to do some lying.
Speaker 3:I don't know about that. I will see some things on his.
Speaker 2:Man listen. Women can't have the truth.
Speaker 1:If men tell women, it's the absolute truth. I don't agree with that.
Speaker 2:Tell me the truth, I promise you, I don't agree with that.
Speaker 3:I ain't gonna do nothing to you Men are Niggas is crazy.
Speaker 2:I don't think women understand how unhinged niggas really is.
Speaker 3:No, we know.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know, you ain't never met niggas like yes, yes, I guess I haven't met a few, for sure, yeah. It can be rough, though.
Speaker 1:I think men and women are crazy it just depends.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but me I'm crazy.
Speaker 3:You can get crazier.
Speaker 2:Man Bad, I don't like that. I don't know. I think my boy Brent's trying to say something off Everything. All right, we got to. So, All right.
Speaker 3:Well, chucky, you know know, it's been lovely that you came in.
Speaker 1:It's been real appreciate you coming on here, just glad you was honest and being I try who you are.
Speaker 3:You know at all times.
Speaker 2:I try my best.
Speaker 1:I wish you would've finished that while we were talking matter of fact, this is the time let's buck it. Yeah, let's talk buck it is crazy come on buck it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's toast the bucket is crazy.
Speaker 4:Come on, bucket, it's the Lord's day. It's the Lord's day.
Speaker 3:It's Joe Frost.